Student Introduction   

Interview in groups of 3 to 4, and be prepared to introduce someone else you talked to about their:
Course Introduction: European Romantic Movement



Course Goals:






Review of Week 1


What do rights do you think are essential for humans?

Which of these rights do you think are worth fighting your government for?

Keywords in Declarations:

Lecture 1/19

1. The French Revolution

- caused by American ex., poverty of masses, bread famine, aristocrats' abuse of power, legacy of Enlightenment thinking (Rousseau)


- revolt in Haiti, abolition of slave trade


- first significant break from a vertical world

God > King > Clergy > Aristocracy > everyone else

 to a secular one with a burgeoning middle class


--> How should people act like middle class citizens (not peasant, not aristocratic, but something in between)?


2. Olympe de Gouges


- ex. of proto-feminist revolution which incl. women fighting in the conflict (both sides: royalist and republican)


Ques. about lecture


Kristin: "Why or even how did the idea of religion just vanish? Or how did it become secular and what aspects changed?"

- revolt vs. Catholic Church = revolt vs. institutions of political, economic power

- Church property seized, but peoples' belief systems did not necessarily change

- Nuns, priests guillotined

- New national holidays to supplant religious ones

- Festival of Supreme Being

- Civil marriage (and divorce)


--> Catholicism did not totally disappear, although its break w/religion is a notable part of its relationship with the Church:


Chelsea: "If Olympe de Gouges was of the lower classes and fought for the rights of women, then why would she change her name to Olympe de Gouges? I understand that she felt she was of the aristocratic class, but if she’s fighting for these women’s rights and the like, why would it matter if she was Marie Gouzes rather than, as you stated, celestial Olympe de Gouges?"


- 17th c. debate of women as shrews/monsters vs. Strong Women (Femmes Fortes)


- Gouges and class (contradictions and paradoxes)


Erica: Why were there so many Olympe de Gouges [websites featuring her Declaration] that excluded the part about women causing harm?

- probably an attempt to resolve the aforementioned contradictions in her thinking and personality

Marissa: Why did Gouges's Declaration not gain in popularity?


Maria: Why does she support prostitution though? Is prostitution not a way to oppress and abuse women?


Jen: Which side should I be on: the Aristocracy (royalists) or the French revolutionaries (republicans)?

--> Which side is Rousseau on?


Review

Rousseau

savage (sauvage) > native peoples

society
nature
civilized

machines

bad

adult

artificial (11) knowledge, metaphysics (28)

egocentrism (50)

riches and conquest (64)



savage

bodies (20)

good

child

wisdom

pity (50)

happiness and virtue (64)


More ques. about Rousseau:

Brenda: My question is who are the "masters" that Rousseau refers to (3)?

Erica: Which group of people was he trying to prove were not equal? "Savage man'? "Modern man"? Animals? Why is this section important to some of the readings assigned in the last class? One group I noticed that Rousseau thinks should be unequal is women. He states "Now it is easy to see that the moral aspect of love is an artificial sentiment born of social custom, and extolled by women with so much skill and care in order to establish their hegemony and make dominant the sex that ought to obey." Every other idea in his paper was explained thoroughly and supported with Rousseau's reasoning, but this one statement seems to be the only one that he thinks is general knowledge and obvious to everyone who reads it.

    Abeer responds

Kristin: Rousseau uses a lot of examples throughout his discourse but one that somewhat confused me was his example about the Spartans. He states, "Nature in this case treats them exactly as Sparta treated the children of her citizens: those who come well formed into the world she renders strong and robust, and all the rest she destroys; differing in this respect from our modern communities, in which the State, by making children a burden to their parents, kills them indiscriminately before they are born." I don't understand the latter part of the section. I also am somewhat confused about the term "well formed", what is he actually mean? Whether or not they are well informed with how everything is? Because if that's the case isn't he contradicting himself in a way? That knowing how one should act in nature is not natural? Or am I just taking it way too far?


Rousseau, Discourse on the Origin of Inequality (1754)
Darwin, Origin of Species (1859)

Rousseau, Jean-Jacques. Discourse on the Origin of Inequality. Trans. Donald A. Cress. Indianapolis and Cambridge: Hackett Publishing Company, 1992. Print.

Ques. about lecture

Denise: "What if a person such as Hauser, whom undeniably was ignorant to morals of society, committed an act of murder or betrayal. Surely some could claim that the man doesn’t “know any better” because of his origin. But would he still constitute as a morally righteous person, according to Rousseau?"

--> Frankenstein's monster


Review 2/2

1. Religious Syncretism
Ex. In text: The OED definition of Sibyl explains that it relates to ancient prophetesses ("Sibyl").

Works Cited

Farber, Allen. "Arch of Constantine." Smart History by Khan Academy. 2012. Accessed 2012. Web.

"Sibyl." Oxford English Dictionary. 2011. Accessed 2012. Web.

2. Pantheism

3. Neoclassicism

"Hyperion's Song of Destiny" = Ex. of German TRANSCENDENTAL PHILOSOPHY

-    called Idealism because it envisions a dialectical (Fichte, Hegel) movement toward an absolute state of being
-    mimicked / found also in poetry of Hölderlin, Novalis in particular (Frühromantik)

Stanza 1 = THESIS: You all (plural) "walk up there in the light" (l.1).

Stanza 2 = ANTITHESIS: The "heavenly ones breathe" and "Gaze in tranquil, / Eternal clarity" (l. 8, 14-15).

Stanza 3 = SYNTHESIS or hypothesis: We "find rest nowhere."


4. Poetry terminology

5. No time to discuss: Novalisp. 61


What aspects of Hugo's poem, "Tomorrow, at the point of dawn . . . " have Romantic qualities?

- nature - a character

- wandering - solitary

- death - bitter 



What does Werther teach (to someone like Frankenstein's monster, who finds it as one of his first books)?

Ques. about lecture 2/16:

Nisreen: What do you mean by child of nature and that the Europeans can be children of nature?

Abeer: Does he seek punishment for everything he states in Confessions? Is he expecting someone to punish him for writing Confessions?

Tia: Why did he care so much about how others viewed him when he basically says they are to blame for molding him into who he is, I am just a little confused?

Courtney: Mlle. Lambercier's role in Rousseau's sexual development. (NB Denise)

Misbah: his love affairs with the two other women he mentions in Book One. He says on page 26, "There are in my experience, two very real but quite distinct kinds of love,..." Is this the part you were referring to when you pulled up the definition of selfish love and love for self? I was kind of confused on what Rousseau was trying to say about love in this passage.




What does nature mean to you?


What does it mean to you to be a scientist? What all can science (and scientists) do? What do scientists try to accomplish?

The Sandman

- Nathanael's 2 traumas: the death of his father, and the unscrewing of Olympia

- Doubling: Coppelius / the Sandman; Coppelius / father; Coppola / Coppelius; Klara / Olympia; Spalanzani / Coppola; Lothar / Siegmund


- Why does N. fall in love w/Olympia?

"Occupy Rousseau: Inequality & Social Justice." New York Public Library. Stephen A. Schwarzmann Building, New York, NY. 9 March 2012. Roundtable Discussion.

Benjamin Barber

Laura Flanders

Guillaume Chenevière
Nannerl Keohane
Former NJ Governor Keane



Two souls: Reread Faust's sentiment about his "two souls" (1100-25/p. 31). In what ways can you identify (or not) with his feeling? Do you have two (conflicting) desires, tendencies &/or sides to yourself? If not, why not (& what's wrong w/Faust in that case)? 


How would you feel about a real girl who was willing to give her mother a dangerous drug so that she could have sex with her lover in the same bedroom (l. 3510/98)? What is there about the portrait of Gretchen that tends to make us more forgiving of her than of her real-life equivalent?

- Missing father figures (Erica)
- Gretchen's 2 sides, shows some intelligence (Kristin)
- True story in Pakistan (Misbah)

Questions of culpability and complicity in Faust > // questions in German culture and history

 




Rehearse your part(s) for the 2nd, 5th, or 6th scene of Faust II, Act I. If you have multiple parts, try to use a different voice for each part (something you should try to imbue your part with in any case). You can share parts if more people need roles.

2. Imperial Residence (4730-5060/139-46): (144-45/4890-5005: Meph., Chancellor, Emperor, Treasurer + Quartermaster, Marshal, Astrologer, Muttering all [6-7])

5. Dark Gallery (6175/176) (176-79/6180-6305: Faust, Mephistopheles [2])

6. Hall of Chivalry (6455/184) (184-86/6453-6565: Lady + Another, 2nd Lady + Others + Diplomat, 3rd Lady + Knight + Poet, 4th Lady + Young Lady + Savant, Fifth Lady + Older Lady + Astrologer, Sixth Lady + Oldest Lady + Faust, Knight + Courtier + Meph., Chamberlain + the Former [8-22])






Faust & Romanticism

    "This speech is full of passion and sentimentality, as he addresses the moon as if it were a friend he could confide in" (Maria).

    "most of the settings of the play take place somewhere close to nature such as the Garden, On a Walk, (which is something that Rousseau states is the best mode of transportation) Forest and Cave" (Rene)

Not Romantic

See also: What is romantic about Goethe's Faust?



What might Goethe be saying about gender in having at least 2 characters who are hermaphroditic (Homunculus, Mephisto)? What does it mean if men can turn into women?







Maria + Marissa: Does Faust realize that only love will give him happiness? Is this the true tragedy of Faust (his failure to find love)?

Tia: How can he be redeemed by love when he shows no love for anyone or anything but himself?




Where do you think (the spark) of life comes from?



What's useful about this genre of writing?

What's challenging about it?

What success(es) did you have with it?





What does it mean to you to be "human"?

under rubric of humanity/positive connotation


Romantic Era:

- emergence of concern for human rights (American and French Revolutions, end of slave trade in Europe, proto-feminists like Gouges)

- rhetoric of sensibility

- also an era of scientific experimentation

> What is Life?