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< Subject: Election intimidation in Bloomfield >
<From: >
< Date: 20-May-98 >

You always know when it's election time in Bloomfield because people who support the Norton team with a letter or lawn sign are harassed, threatened and otherwise intimidated.

I personally know of two people who already were scared into removing signs because they didn't want trouble. In a democratic society, this is a disgrace. But it goes to show just how low some of our political groupies are.

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<From: >Dreamboat
< Date: 20-May-98 >

Don't complain. Take action. Terroristic threats are a crime in our state. If you think the local police are encouraging this, then contact the Essex County Proscutor's Office directly.

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<From: >
< Date: 20-May-98 >

Go for the above, plus get an investigative team from a local TV station. They eat this stuff right up!

Then when these low lifes are shown for who and what they are, put in the name of who they support! The first rule of warfare - there are no rules. The second rule of warfare - refer to rule #1.

Anyway, tis votes, not signs tha win elections, and have your intimidated friends spread the word regarding the kinds of people that support the opposition.

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<From: >Oh Pleeeeaaaasssseeee
< Date: 20-May-98 >

Are you saying that you know two people who took their Norton Team sign down because they feared for their physical welfare. Did they receive an actual threat "take the sign off your lawn or. . . "

That is ludicrous. Sounds like a campaign ploy to make the opposition look bad--do you think averyone who reads these threads is stupid?

For the record, I don't support either candidate, I just found your implications to be totally bizzare

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<From: >To Oh Pleaseeeeee
< Date: 20-May-98 >

I find your ability to be so nieve quite bizarre!

Fear and intimidation have always been a method to keep Americans away from the polls! Some of Bloomfield's Bad Boys only need hoods and robes to qualify for their thought patterns and behavior!

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<From: >To Oh Pleaseeeeee
< Date: 20-May-98 >

I find your ability to be so nieve quite bizarre!

Fear and intimidation have always been a method to keep Americans away from the polls! Some of Bloomfield's Bad Boys only need hoods and robes to qualify for their thought patterns and behavior!

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<From: >Oh Pllleeeeaaaassssseeeee!
< Date: 20-May-98 >

I am not naive but you must be to think that people won't see through your campaign ploys.

If people have really been harrassed, they'd go to the police and it'd be all over the papers--this is a very "small" town.

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<From: >Victim
< Date: 20-May-98 >

My neighbor put a letter of support in the local rag for Norton. He received a visit from "someone from the neighborhood" who we had never seen before telling him how wrong he was! Well, he got an earful back! Yes, fear, intimidation and harassment are some campaign people's slogans.

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<From: >who are you trying to kid?
< Date: 20-May-98 >

Only a stone moron would believe this intimidation crap. Get a grip and get a new line. This one is old and frayed.

A mysterious "someone from the neighborhood". What a joke.

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<From: >Democracy?
< Date: 20-May-98 >

If that's the intimidation and fear you're talking about then you fear democracy. Someone expressing their view and trying to convince someone else they're view is wrong is not fear & intimidation it's called freedom of speech providing no threats were made.

The previous posters are right, this is total nonsense and no one believes it for a minute. How bout discussing some issues instead of trying to create a diversion.

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<From: >
< Date: 20-May-98 >

Total nonsense? Sounds like you're trying to divert yourself. Just ask around if you think I'm kidding. No good people don't fear democracy, only slimeballs do because they know their candidates don't stand much of a chance of being elected without some "help" from strongarms. You must really be afraid of the Norton team to respond with such disdain.

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<From: >GOPissed
< Date: 20-May-98 >

Boy, some people are really defensive. They'll pooh-pooh anything they didn't post. Don't flip your wig, Gary.

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<From: >I agree
< Date: 20-May-98 >

The first poster (May 20) is right. I had a friend who was intimidated because he put up a Norton sign. And yes he was threatened--"take down the sign or you can expect trouble," words to that effect. He said he was going to the police, hope he followed through. I hear some of the Norton signs have been stolen too.

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<From: >More than a casual observer
< Date: 20-May-98 >

I can tell you that "The Norton Management Team" signs have been stolen. I KNOW because some of the ones I put up are now missing. When I checked with the homeowners (who requested a sign), they didn't know what happened. Kids fooling around???? I don't think so.

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<From: >
< Date: 21-May-98 >

Look at the crew serving as JB's committee. A famous "who me? I'm not political" group. Everytime they are involved in an election, signs disappear, you get bothered or receive veiled threats or get gossiped about. JB can be the nicest man in town but I do judge a man by the company he keeps. I don't like his choice of friends so I cannot choose him.

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<From: >
< Date: 21-May-98 >

I take it, "blank," you are speaking of the Ampere Coalition, who in 1995 used taxpayer-funded radios to campaign for their favorite leader, Iacobacci.

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<From: >Less Tham Intimidated In Bloomfield!
< Date: 21-May-98 >

...by the way, whatever happened to those radios? Aren't they still in Esposito's neighborhood?

Oh by the way...I had one of these strongarms threaten to "kick my ass!" Of course he mouthed off in public...still waiting!

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<From: >Yoo-hoo!
< Date: 22-May-98 >

This thread is missing someone. The poster who always writes, "It's people like you that..." when s/he want to divert attention from a discussion. How about it, Maria, Vicky, Mary Ann......?

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<From: >thread watcher
< Date: 22-May-98 >

I think we all know who Vicki is but who are Maria and Mary Ann? Those are new names to me and I've been around a long time.

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<From: >Another victim's friend
< Date: 23-May-98 >

My neighbor's Norton sign was ripped down a couple of days ago. She thought it was the wind and put up another sign. That one disappeared too. So much for "total nonsense" that no one should believe.

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<From: >THE OUTSIDER
< Date: 23-May-98 >

I have come to this page to check it out because I have heard so much about the stuff on it. I find it appauling that someone has to stoop so low as to steal signs from people's yards to make them look like they have a lot of supporters, but in the end, on June 2nd the truth will come out and Jim Norton and the Management Team will prevail.

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<From: >Watching
< Date: 23-May-98 >

Watch where the Norton signs are. Watch who visits those houses. Watch signs disappear. Some of us know who the visitors are! Not to worry, they will have to run for their offices and turnabout is fair play.

Its a shame because no matter how nice JB is, he's allowing a campaign of fear, lies and intimidation. Doesn't say much about his spine.

Norton & co. all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!

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<From: >Town traveler
< Date: 25-May-98 >

Rode around alot today. Saw Norton & co. signs missing and knocked down. Did we have a tornado yesterday? Did it have a thing for blue vs. red as it made its path? Foul play? In Bloomfield? Yep!

Now I have to support the Norton team since someone is working so hard against it!

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<From: >where did the wind emanate
< Date: 25-May-98 >

I think it's fairly obvious where all these signs are going. They are being knocked down and blown away by the consistantly strong wind caused by the whining and complaining from both sides in this pathetic election. If this is the best Bloomfield can do perhaps the town should beg to be taken over by the state.

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<From: >wrong
< Date: 25-May-98 >

Whining? How about mob tactics from the red team? The blue team knows exactly who is doing it because its only theirs that are being blown away. But thats ok, the red team will get blown away on June 2nd! Would love to see debates between all of those running. Or is the red team afraid? Lies can be refuted in an open forum.

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<From: >THE OUTSIDER
< Date: 25-May-98 >

To: Where did the wind eminate,

If you notice all the wind is coming from one party, Bukowski's. The only thing the Norton party is doing is trying to dispute all the untruths that is coming from the Bukowski camp. If a voter is niave enough to vote for Bukowski because he/she believes what they are reading without checking the facts then "God Help Us All".

I do not believe and I will CAST MY vote for Mayor Norton and the Management team.

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<From: >In The Know!
< Date: 26-May-98 >

"Bukowski" and "Galioto" signs can be found and are found in front of the tackiest propoerties in town.

How about that little gem on upeer Broad Stree near Lummus? Hey, just put some lights up and you can have a carnival! Or, the one on the corner of East Passaic and Sadler, the bungallow with the fence made of tree stumps and a cement mixer in full view. Yep! Real class!

Bring back corruption and payola, vote the Judge and The Grassman!

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<From: >In The Know!
< Date: 26-May-98 >

"Bukowski" and "Galioto" signs can be found and are found in front of the tackiest propoerties in town.

How about that little gem on upeer Broad Stree near Lummus? Hey, just put some lights up and you can have a carnival! Or, the one on the corner of East Passaic and Sadler, the bungallow with the fence made of tree stumps and a cement mixer in full view. Yep! Real class!

Bring back corruption and payola, vote the Judge and The Grassman!

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<From: >Thread Watcher
< Date: 26-May-98 >

I reapeat, I am neutral. I am not a registered repub so will not be voting next week. I am an objective observer who occasionally looks over these threads. Here's what I see.

I see personal attacks being made on these threads only by the Norton supporters. I drive by both properties you mentioned. Both are neat and well-maintained. Why must you stoop to personal attacks. Those two homeowners passionately support their candidate, what's the harm in that. I remember a huge Norton sign on the garage next to St. Thomas parking lot in the last election, what is the difference. Also, I saw a Bukowski sign ripped off its frame on the corner of Broad & Parkview. I haven't seen any Norton signs ripped down but I've no doubt they have been. It works both ways and ripping signs down & verbally trashing a citizen's property is childish.

The point, get to the issues. I have not seen ANYONE address issues on these threads. All I see is diversion. Leave the childish behavior to the kids and act like adults.

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<From: >Republican
< Date: 26-May-98 >

Our chairman will not allow issues to cloud the election. She doesn't know them so they don't matter. She will make them up and tell us what she wants us to think! By the way, has she gotten us any more tax dollars??

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<From: >Tell us more !
< Date: 26-May-98 >

Way to go, 'IN THE KNOW' As a true norton supporter you have just shown another facet of the norton team mentality. If someone has an opion that's different then yours, then go for the throat.Team policy dictates that you demean and degrade people who don't have the luxury of living in a pretty house like yours. I can't wait to read your next thread, will you be dumb enough to get into ethnic inferiorities to help the norton team. FACTS FACTS NOT LOSER FRUSTRATIONS

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<From: >speaking of signs...
< Date: 26-May-98 >

Hey, "In the Know," have you seen the HUGE Bukowski and Galioto sign on the property of 88 Belleville Ave.? It's an apartment building, and I'd love to know who owns the building. Too bad Art Sholty isn't code enforcer...I'm sure the owner is breaking some ordinance by having such a huge sign on his property.

Bukowski and Galioto have chosen some great colors for their signs--red and white. Red for embarassment if these two idiots ever get in, but I'd love to know what the white symbolizes.

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<From: >netizen kane
< Date: 26-May-98 >

The level of discussion on this thread is appalling.Instead of this childish bickering about who tore what sign down,try talking about the serious issues that are going to effect the future of this town,and by the way, the value of your homes. This talk about "the red team and the blue team"would be utterly laughable if the subject wasn't so important. It's too late now,but the tired choice of candidates is not at all promising either.

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<From: >Hey Netizen
< Date: 26-May-98 >

This is as good as it gets. The really scary thing to think about is that most of these mental giants are politically connected one way or another. No matter which party wins we lose because these clowns will be buzzing around the municipal building like the worthless drones they are.

Now that Netizen is scary.

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<From: >To Hey Netizen
< Date: 26-May-98 >

Sorry, but I must disagree. Norton and Team have brought down our tax increases from 9 tax points in 1993, his first year as mayor, to 0 points this year. That's what I call progress. Norton promised tax stabilization and he has kept his promise.

No amount of lying campaign flyers from the Bukowski cartel will change that essential fact. That's why the Norton TEam will sweep on June 2.

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<From: >Babies
< Date: 26-May-98 >

Babies, Babies, stick your head in gravy. Wipe it off with bubble gum and then join the navy.

Does that bring you back to childhood? It sure should. These postings are sad. GROW UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!

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<From: >Adult
< Date: 26-May-98 >

This election is very real. Unfortunately, one side has resorted to a "your mother wears army boots" type of campaign. Their style is to go low. How low will they go? Bet they send something out to embarass Norton's family minutes before the election. You people support that? The old saying is true, the best defense is a good offense. I am offended by JB's lies and ego.

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<From: >Tax my memory
< Date: 27-May-98 >

What were the tax rate increases before norton gave us his 9 pointer and what have the numbers been since ? Have you received your final 1998 tax bill yet ? The budget approval was a typical norton mudslide. Is this an election year ? Hold your breath for that zero tax increase.

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<From: >Speaking of Sholty
< Date: 27-May-98 >

If the norton team can get past Bukowski and Galioto, maybe next year, they can get the town mis-administrater to re-re-hire sholty with a just a small impact on the "ZERO" budget. The norton team really misses that "code ENFORCER".

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<From: >Lost and Found
< Date: 27-May-98 >

Why was the Bukowski/Galioto sign removed at Watchung and Broad at the antique dealer? This thread talks about intimidation does it not?

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >
< Date: 27-May-98 >

The school budget increased our taxes this year, not the municipal. JB is promising lower taxes because he'd enjoy the credit for what Norton has been doing. Its all of the increased construction that brought it down. Since the state audit that Gary I. wanted cited JB for poorly running the courts, including wasting money in its management, how can anyone think he's the answer? If he messed up one department, badly, why turn him loose to mess up a whole town? He said he used to negotiate the labor contracts. Maybe they were so messed up we had to pay a professional. Who knows? Also, the school board members that brought us the tax increase are out ringing door bells for him. Why? Because he won't notice that they don't want to lower taxes? All he's giving us is hype and poorly chosen spokesmen.

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<From: >Thread Watcher
< Date: 27-May-98 >

To: Lost & Found

You beat me to the punch! I remain neutral and non-political but I live here and I know alot of people on both sides of this campaign. What I heard first hand about the sign at Watchung & Broad was that the owner of the property was told to remove the sign or his business would. . . He was told this by members of the present municipal government. Too bad since his business has really done wonders for that intersection which was an eyesore for so many years. Also, saw more red signs torn off their frames at Barnett & W. Passaic. Haven't noticed any blue yet & I've been in both 1st & 2nd wards on errands, but I'll keep my eyes open.

The point again is that this type of activity goes both ways but on these threads the posters would have you believe that the intimidation was only coming from the red team. That simply isn't so.

Since I am neutral, I will keep my eyes and ears open for accounts of intimidation by the red team and will post accordingly but so far I haven't seen or heard of any first hand.

Now, down to business. The discussion about tax points is a good start in discussing issues. What are each candidates thoughts on Bloomfield Center and a marketing strategy to emphasize all the good things in town.

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<From: >Lost and Found
< Date: 27-May-98 >

To Thread Watcher:

Thanks for the information. I agree that location was an eyesore for many years. It is unfortunate some elected officials care more about their reelection than freedon of speech.

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<From: >Neutral?
< Date: 27-May-98 >

Yeah real neutral. Lets call the dealer & find out the real story. How come outoftowners, like Good Guys, were told to put up the red signs? The rumor is that their business would do better. Yep, both ways

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<From: >
< Date: 27-May-98 >

Neutral, you are right. There are several Bukowski and Galioto signs on stores in the Center. I don't know what they said, but I'm sure they got business owners to believe all the irrelevant b.s. about how the Home Depot will destroy Bloomfield.

Thread Watcher, probably the reason why you don't see many Norton signs being torn down is because so many people have been bullied and intimidated into taking them down by supporters of "The Real Republicans."(sic)

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<From: >Disenchanted with billboards
< Date: 27-May-98 >

Why are JB & RG begging campaign contributions from we the people when they can afford alot of glossy campaign mailings and lots of huge billboards? The people giving don't have much to give, in plain english. Where is all of this money coming from and what could be so important for it to be wasted this way? A debate would have done the trick. If JB & RG are so worried about the town, how come they didn't donate some of that money to buy a Sunday at the Bloomfield Library or do something useful that would have helped people? Whats the real prize for JB to get the nod?

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<From: >Thread Watcher
< Date: 28-May-98 >

My guess is that a huge sign at Watchung & Broad on a property that is owned by a respected, long-time local who has upgraded a once-delapadated eyesore would be more likely to draw votes than a small sign in a Bloomfield Center business that is frequented mostly by out-of-towners who are passing through the center. Those signs probably aren't threatening to anyone but the Watchung one sure must have been.

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<From: >
< Date: 28-May-98 >

To "Disenchanted," believe me, the campaign contributions RG and JB solicit from locals is nothing compared to the checks they receive from their political master, Frank Orechio. What's in it for them? Power, for one thing, influence for another. Perhaps a higher seat in the future?

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<From: >envelope stuffer
< Date: 29-May-98 >

When a fundraiser has standing room only you raise $$$$. If only 40 people attend you don't raise money. When 20 people are at a headquarters alot of mailings go out. If 7 people are at a headquarters you don't get mailings out. It is very simple.

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<From: >curious
< Date: 29-May-98 >

Seems like a member of the blue team demanded the sign on Watchung and Broad to be removed.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >curious
< Date: 29-May-98 >

Seems like a member of the blue team demanded the sign on Watchung and Broad to be removed.

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<From: >bingo
< Date: 29-May-98 >

To curious. BINGO

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<From: >
< Date: 29-May-98 >

Has JB been an active voter in Blfd. elections? Wondering because that would show how interested he was til he got bounced. Records are very telling!

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<From: >curious
< Date: 30-May-98 >

To thread watcher: Barnett and W. Passaic! 4 signs - 1 = 3, now 3-1 = 2 signs left. Also, every fireman whether democrat or republican has a blue sign, I guess when you have a problem putting out red blue is the alternative.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >To curious
< Date: 30-May-98 >

There's a good reason why firemen have Norton signs on their lawns. Galioto has been a proponent of closing a firehouse since he got on the council, and last year even proposed sharing fire services with Belleville, which would have made fire insurance rates soar and weaken Bloomfield's excellent service and protection.

In addition, Norton, Skinner and Kane were the ones who stuck up for the fire department when that bogus lawsuit was settled, which the anti-Nortons seized upon. The case went to court again, and when the property owner admitted some details he must have forgot about during the first case, like the fact he shut off the sprinkler system the day before the fire, the award was dramatically lessened.

There's a good explanation.

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<From: >to curious
< Date: 30-May-98 >

Go back to figuring out how to give Oakview the windows!

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<From: >Rubbing my eyes
< Date: 31-May-98 >

Where have all the Norton signs gone? They were there a few days ago. Are Bukowski and Galioto stealing signs too? Someone told me this would happen in a dirty campaign. I never thought I would see this day in Bloomfield. I've lived here all my life. How sad.

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<From: >GOPissed
< Date: 31-May-98 >

Apparently Norton campaign flyers were stolen from the post office. That's not only a federal crime but the ultimate election intimidation. No wonder no one respectable will support JB. Its not him, its his supporters that turn everyone off.

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<From: >Same old stuff
< Date: 31-May-98 >

Look at all the whose who that's working the guys campaign. These are the same old tricks they ran on a couple of BOE elections & defeated councilmen's stabs. Funny, lots of BOE members & defeated councilmen on that campaign trail! Pure riff raff, that's what he associated with.

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<From: >Are my eyes deceiving me?
< Date: 31-May-98 >

Did I see an Oakview legend in his own mind hasseling kids doing a Norton literature distribution today?

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<From: >Hawkeye
< Date: 01-Jun-98 >

Which legend, I need some entertainment!?

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<From: >Hawkeye
< Date: 01-Jun-98 >

Which legend, I need some entertainment!?

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<From: >
< Date: 01-Jun-98 >

The legend is "spine-less"

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<From: >
< Date: 01-Jun-98 >

OK, we're getting closer! Is it the one who adjusts spines through the wallet, or the one whose wife is a CPA?

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >
< Date: 01-Jun-98 >

BOE members are approaching parents and telling them not to support Norton because he is punishing the children! Those Oakview windows again! How much do these guys want for one school, especially because they're own kids go there? Whats with the BOE? These are the same guys that yelled they weren't political! Not! Why don't they take the money from all that money they saved on the crack legal team? Why is a Democrat BOE member out supporting a Republican candidate? Why is our BOE even involved? You have to ask yourselve, what's in it for them? So while the schools remain crowded, South continues to leak, our bidding process is challenged in court, BOE meetings are held off so the reps can go out and campaign. Really sick! Nice job slick 6.

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<From: >
< Date: 01-Jun-98 >

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<From: >Signs Everywhere!
< Date: 01-Jun-98 >

I live in the South End of town. Most of the Red signs are found in this part of town that has the highest concentration of "FOR SALE SIGNS." Whoever wants to manage Bloomfield has got to do something to arrest the massive exodus by solid working- and lower-middle class families from Bloomfield. The reason many of these people are leaving is because of the low-level of civility in this town. People are treated with disrespect everytime they approach someone in City Hall. The needs and concerns of those who have left for Toms River, Verona, and Bergen County were completely ignored by those in power. Of course there are other reasons for the current exodus. One is clearly racism. OUr town is attracting large numbers of blacks, Hispanics, and Asians. Many of my neighbors have put up their "For Sale" signs. They often say to me and others who remain: "I am leaving because of my kids. I want a better school system." (Translation: I am leaving because I don't want my kids to study or associate with blacks, Hispanics or other minorities.) Others leave because they are elderly and cannot cope with the upkeep of a large or medium-size house. Those of us who live in the South End are really stuck. There is graffiti everywhere thanks to the hoodlums who are allowed to destroy someone else's property. Police officers should notify school principals if they catch these vandals. Vandals should be required to remove the graffiti and attend psychological counseling at the local schools. The incredible amount of litter in the South End is really depressing. Why can't the Township put trash receptacles in front of large apartment buildings, stores, and schools? Store owners that allow litter to accumulate in front of their stores should be fined. The same type of fine should be imposed on the owners of apartment buildings. These people are responsible for what is happening to our end of town. What can we as a group do to improve our quality of life in the South End? Any ideas?

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<From: >Doreen
< Date: 01-Jun-98 >

Hi Everyone. I live in the Brookdale section. I am very concerned because if the South end of town has deteriorated then most certainly it will deteriorate in this end. People are forgetting that we all live in Bloomfield. I am 48 years old and have lived in this town my entire life. Its always been North vs. South. How sad. Lets all get together and make Bloomfield a town where young couples will want to purchase a home. So hey, North or South we are all from Bloomfield!! Lets work with whoever gets in TOGETHER!!

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<From: >Northerner
< Date: 02-Jun-98 >

I was raised in the Southend as a kiddie and moved to the Northend as an adult. I love Bloomfield, simply. My move was based on a too small house and a chance to take advantage of the real estate market and get a good buy for the money. Would I have rebought in the South? Yep, because I was looking there when this came along. My point is that both ends of town have problems but are one town. I frequently travel all corners. I don't see what some of the posts about the South contain. Unless I'm blind, I see a more densely populated area but I don't see the filth and graffitti that are spoken about here. None at all? No, that wouldn't be true but these posts sound like its the Colonades in Newark.

I've seen abandoned properties refurbished. I've seen a lot of progress. I see some heavy duty cleaning up of the area. I feel that Norton is responsible, since he was raised in Watsessing, he knows both sides of the fence. I want this to continue and will support his re-election.

Sometimes I feel that the frustrations are exagerated and the timing is a bit too close to an election to ignore. If things are that bad, why aren't you holding your councilman and the at-larges accountable? They are your voices. Call them. They bring the concerns of their constituates to the Mayor and Council as a whole. You can't get mad at Norton if your councilman isn't worrying about his ward's best interest. I don't think replacing him will solve your problems. I think it will increase them because Bukowski has no clear game plan and says so in the Ledger and Independent Press. Good luck to us all.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >To Signs Everywhere
< Date: 02-Jun-98 >

I agree with Northerner. Norton has done more than any other mayor in the past 15 years to rebuild economic health in our town and stabilize taxes. He and his team deserve our support for their hard work.

As for the "massive exodus" of working- and lower-middle-class people, the South end is being repopulated and regentrified, if you will, by young professional couples of all races and ethnic backgrounds. Many of them work in NYC and are attracted to Bloomfield by the proximity to excellent transportation. Look around, you'll see many older homes in the South end being lovingly restored.

This is progress! And a real estate agent recently told me the values of homes in Bloomfield have increased almost 5 percent in the past year or so. That's progress too, most of it attributable to the strides Norton and his team have made. If there's a low level of civility in town, it's not in City Hall, it's on the part of those who want to unseat the mayor. They have lied, cheated and now stolen campaign literature. Is that who we want leading this town? I think not!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >hawkeye
< Date: 02-Jun-98 >

To "Signs Everywhere"

You are 110% correcto-mundo! Marion Crecco and some "Police Chief Wanna-Be" have been on their Rat Patrol throughout Oakview this week with their lies and propaganda. She is an incredibly two-faced liar, and the next time she plays "I'm one of you" at our church, the reception will be less than warm.

Yo Marion, get right with God and the people you are sworn to represent!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >hawkeye
< Date: 02-Jun-98 >

To "Signs Everywhere"

You are 110% correcto-mundo! Marion Crecco and some "Police Chief Wanna-Be" have been on their Rat Patrol throughout Oakview this week with their lies and propaganda. She is an incredibly two-faced liar, and the next time she plays "I'm one of you" at our church, the reception will be less than warm.

Yo Marion, get right with God and the people you are sworn to represent!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >thread watcher
< Date: 02-Jun-98 >

I think that if we remove "politics" -- everything tactical having to do with the election -- what we are left with is issues. I'm afraid that JB hasn't addressed any issues. We are at a major crossroad here and I don't think any leader can make it up as he/she goes along. JN hasn't really taken on any issues except rateables but he has been successful in that area which he declared to be his main focus 6 years ago. Also the progress in the parks/rec area has been impressive, he got the right person for the job and they work well together for positive progress. I think that the focus has to change now. Continue wooing rateables for sure but the center and the town's image must be the primary focus of a new government. It bothers me that neither candidate has spoken of either of these in recent weeks but whoever wins today needs to get that message. The center is paramount to the future of this town and there must be tremendous vision to turn it around. Also, JN needs to work on his image -- the old boy stuff has to go. He must find a way to appeal to the thirtysomething and fortysomethings who have decided to raise their families here. We are the cement in this community.

Heard an interesting suggestion for the center -- different but the more you think about it the better it sounds. Much vision needed though! Township buys property then sells it to developer who levels it all to build a mid-sized mall. Location, right off parkway is perfect. It may be the only way to bring upscale stores, restaurants and anchors to the area. Talk about rateables. I know it sounds crazy but maybe not. . .

Good luck to the winner today, you have a huge task as the future of this community will probably be decided in the next three years.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Norton all the way
< Date: 02-Jun-98 >

Ditto!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Poll watcher
< Date: 02-Jun-98 >

Colors are showing. Reports say that the Oakview poll, as usual, is the first to have someone get out of hand and behave ungentlemanly. Such a shock! Not! Nice going Galioto! Keep up the good work.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >That's it for now
< Date: 02-Jun-98 >

All right now. Everyone stop whining, bitching, complaining, lying, etc and go out and vote. You can continue your whining bitching, pomplaining, lying etc tomorrow.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >it's tomorrow
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

Bloomfield just flunked the IQ test!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >GOPissed
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

Yep, it's tomorrow all right. The people have made their choices, and now they will have to live with the consequences.

At least real estate agents will benefit--for awhile, anyway--since everyone who can will be putting his or her home on the market.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Bukowski, Galioto supporter
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

Congatulations!!!!!!!!!!!! The people have spoken. Bloomfield has wonderful, intellegent and caring people, who knows what has to be done. Congratulations Judge, I'm proud of you. Congratulations TOP VOTE GETTER Galioto. We the people, trust and have faith in you. Your our watch dog, and your winning, especially getting the top votes proves that we've noticed. I'm here for both of you!!!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >official scorekeeper
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

Just thought the gossipers on all Bloomfield threads would like to know which former and elected officials were involved in the campaign. Red Team Roster - Burnett(s), Crecco, Fede, Nankivell, Petrillo, Rizzitello, Robertson, and Yar(s). Blue Team Roster - Cocchi, Curcio(s), D'Angelo, DeCarlo, Francisco, Zecker.

P.S. There were also town employees working at the polls, the Blue team had the advantage in this catagory.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

Red Team Roster:

Bloomfield's top notch bottom-feeders and wanna-be's. They'll be feeding at the trough in no time, gavones that they are. Low life scumbags, but that is what Bloomfield wants.

Your town is in the toliet, look up the addresses for your champs, you'll be knocking down their doors in a year!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

Red Team Roster:

Bloomfield's top notch bottom-feeders and wanna-be's. They'll be feeding at the trough in no time, gavones that they are. Low life scumbags, but that is what Bloomfield wants.

Your town is in the toliet, look up the addresses for your champs, you'll be knocking down their doors in a year!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Thread Watcher
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

To the above poster all I can say is WOW, the vehemence is frightening.

Lets move on.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Thread Watcher
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

To the above poster all I can say is WOW, the vehemence is frightening.

Lets move on.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Oak View area
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

To: "Are my eyes..." and "blank"

I possibly saw the same incident but it seemed to me that the person you speak of was not "hasseling" the two children handing out campaign literature. The three were laughing and joking with each other and seemed to be having a good time. If this is the incident that happened on a board member's block, someone should ask these kids what actually occurred. I'm sure someone at headquarters will know what children were handing out the campain literature. These children should be contacted to see if they were intimidatd. Don't you agree!?

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Whats the point?
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

If the red team is bragging about the split that they developed on the board carries into other areas of their lives, who cares? Taxpayers just want to know when all these people who wanted power are going to do something constructive? The Red team is known for complaining and No votes! They change things just to have it their way, like the Republican slate! So when do we see good come out of these changes? Life in Bloomfeild has been on hold while a mad power struggle has gone on. So ok, the not-so-beautiful people have it. We're watching, because terms of office are such a temporary thing and as we've seen, anyone can come out and oust a power. So many of us are watching!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >KEEP HIM SOBER!!
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

If Bukowski can give up selling lottery tickets and drinking beer from the refrigerator in his store all day long, and Galioto can keep his racist mouth shut, maybe, just maybe, the rest of council can make them look good!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

No one's that good!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Neutral Ground
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

Boy Oh Boy, Listen to all the Norton cronies and their sour grapes. Next lets get rid of SKINNER AND KANE!! Then the 3 Stooges will be gone and maybe somehow or some way we can get rid of ZAWACKI who actually won the lottery off of this town. I just learned he is getting a clothing allowance that he doesn't even use. How pathetic. Good bye Mr. Norton, Ms. Skinner, and Mr. Kane. Go rip off some other town!!!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >really annoyed
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

To "Neutral Ground," I'll repeat what I said in one of the other posts. If Bukowski wins, I'll expect a tax decrease, I don't want to see any for sale signs on any properties in town, and I want to see how Bukowski and Galioto plan to attract ratables without encouraging development. If in the first year none of this happens, on Jan. 1, 2000, I will file for petitions to get a recall election going.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Start now
< Date: 03-Jun-98 >

Its in the cards! Maybe this time Marion's people may actually have to live up to a campaign promise! Yeah, sure!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Thank God!
< Date: 04-Jun-98 >

To all the above! GOD watches over DRUNKS and FOOLS. So Bukowski and Galioto will be OK!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Economic Boycott
< Date: 04-Jun-98 >

Don't go to KIS Photo. When you see RG's manure wagon in front of a neighbor's house, talk to the neighbor afterwards and refer him/her to a better "landscaper", which really isn't too hard, a goat does better cleaner work!

When Stunod has to hustle their heinies like the rest of us to make a living, then we'll see how good they are!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Neutral Ground
< Date: 04-Jun-98 >

To Really Annoyed: We have had 3 houses alone For Sale on this street in BROOKDALE in the past year. AND I don't know about you BUT we have had tax INCREASES every year since NORTON has been in. This is the first year since he has been Mayor that we haven't seen an increase. Isn't that a little strange? I guess that he was planning on doubling up next year. So as far as tax increases we are definitely used to them. Also the For Sale signs. Where have you been? Its pathetic how many houses have been put up for sale in the past 8 years. AND no one seems to answer my question about ZAWACKI. Why does he need a clothing allowance??? And I guess that NORTON never DRINKS!! Check out Obal's!!! hahahaha Talk about DRUNKS!!!!!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >really annoyed
< Date: 04-Jun-98 >

Neutral Ground, you still haven't answered my question. In a Bukowski-Galioto-Frank Orechio Administration, can I look forward to seeing no "For Sale" signs on any Bloomfield properties, can look foward to no tax increases for the next three years, and actually a decrease. I'd especially like to see how these idiots are going to increase ratables by shutting the door on stores like Home Depot.

Perhaps I'm too hard on Bukowski. It'll be just as bad if Stefanelli wins. Like I said before, it's two sides of the same coin, printed in the Frank A. Orechio mint!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >To Neutral Ground
< Date: 05-Jun-98 >

the school board has increased our taxes every year, no break. how come no one's yelling at them? also funny that the guys there who promised to lower your taxes never did. only voted against it in the past. supported it this time but no big push. it went down & they get their bloomers in a knot with norton for cutting it, meaning lowering the taxes. galioto, first time in his life, supports not cutting the school budget. then, all the board people that wouldn't lower your taxes go out and shove bukowski up our noses & bash norton for doing what, trying to lower the school taxes. is this supposed to make sense? it's all baloney! you guys just didn't like him, period, end of story.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Neutral Ground
< Date: 05-Jun-98 >

Your right about alot of things. Your also right about the For Sale signs in this town. I doubt that it will change. I do think that whoever wins the election that we ALL better start backing up the new Mayor. Its time for everyone of us in Bloomfield to unite. Lets just stop bashing everyone including Mr. Norton.

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >To Neutral Ground
< Date: 05-Jun-98 >

So your boys won, played dirty, trashed talked, presented no issues, offer no answers, and we're supposed to lie on our backs and all collectively enjoy the upcoming ____ of the township, its taxpayers, and yes, its children. Not quite! Resistance and counter-arguement are also hallmarks of democracy. The elected better come up with something, or we'll be ready for them!

I don't worry about For Sale signs. Hopefully a better class of people are moving in then the class of garbage that aspires to take over! When the Galioto's Rizzitello's Crecco's, etc get done, you'll be fighting the crows and seagulls for what is left of the garbage. Orecchio will get to eat first!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >To Neutral Ground
< Date: 05-Jun-98 >

So your boys won, played dirty, trashed talked, presented no issues, offer no answers, and we're supposed to lie on our backs and all collectively enjoy the upcoming ____ of the township, its taxpayers, and yes, its children. Not quite! Resistance and counter-arguement are also hallmarks of democracy. The elected better come up with something, or we'll be ready for them!

I don't worry about For Sale signs. Hopefully a better class of people are moving in then the class of garbage that aspires to take over! When the Galioto's Rizzitello's Crecco's, etc get done, you'll be fighting the crows and seagulls for what is left of the garbage. Orecchio will get to eat first!

<Subject: RE: Election intimidation in Bloomfield>
<From: >Economist
< Date: 07-Jun-98 >

Does anyone know whether or not the two "outstanding" mayoralty candidates have any plans for the economic development of our town? How are they going to finance the redevelopment of the Center? How are they going to keep the School Budget under control? How are they going to cope with the massive influx of renters and transients in the South End? How are they going to keep up the delivery of quality municipal services? If people are so stupid that they vote on personalities rather than issues, then they deserve what they get. Come next year, I know that homeowners will be stuck with the bill. Someone has to pay for the lack of vision in Bloomfield! How about a residency requirement for our police officers, fire fighters, local school employees. This is a requirement in thriving towns (e.g., Philadelphia and other NJ towns). Why do we finance outrageous salaries and pensions on the backs of those who earn less than $50,000? Let's get a RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT at least for the Town Administrator. I would not mind our hiring a qualified town administrator who can turn this town around. We need someone who can write federal grants and find practical ways to tax those who deserve to be taxed.